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Offline Duke87

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VA: US 460 in Petersburg
« on: February 23, 2016, 10:12:51 pm »
Bit of an oddity here. There is some signage in the field indicating that US 460 follows I-95 south to exit 48 and then uses Wagner Rd to get back to County Dr, and showing County Dr from I-95 exit 50 to the intersection with Wagner Rd as US 460 Business:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1986705,-77.3328635,3a,15.3y,338.97h,88.27t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s87JpbaHlKpV3Ke7WtZ6pLA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D87JpbaHlKpV3Ke7WtZ6pLA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D56.519489%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2128584,-77.3788012,3a,36.6y,114.21h,80.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj4nfeN9KU3FkVvq3WuWtRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

But, there are also signs showing County Dr as plain old US 460:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2163058,-77.3665742,3a,15.6y,281.72h,86.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3ENqJRTpzULgLzqOPv5u2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2009973,-77.3331032,3a,15y,228.26h,87.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1su7toM4J2OKyBlo9FU-vVSw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2153693,-77.3737511,3a,38.2y,255.61h,90.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syrEQOZhMw8etIm8pl_b7eQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

And at exit 48, signage shows US 460 getting on I-95 here:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1906979,-77.351825,3a,75y,281.29h,85.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sScNeZm4Zgzwe7UI0ZtWTQg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 but there is no mention of its presence when exiting:
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1914764,-77.358998,3a,29.4y,163.92h,85.04t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1son8WS-SkemAGct2Kcu59WA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Don8WS-SkemAGct2Kcu59WA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D186.29308%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656


TM shows US 460 following County Dr to I-95 exit 50 and shows 460 Business ending at the bottom of the ramps from exit 50. VA Highways Project seems to think US 460 was rerouted onto Wagner Rd ca. 2007: http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/us460b.htm
VDOT's current official state maps don't show enough detail in the area to say anything conclusive. I can't find an official text route log on line and while VDOT's website has GIS shapefiles available for download I lack the means to open and interpret them.

So what gives? Was US 460 officially rerouted by the state while the City of Petersburg is declining to acknowledge it? Or are the signs showing the reroute wrong?
« Last Edit: October 20, 2017, 12:19:22 pm by michih »

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Re: VA: US 460 in Petersburg
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2016, 01:11:10 am »
mapmikey has a pull request in which includes the relocation of US460 along with some other things. I had a look thru the changes and wrote some updates text for them, and made some peer-review style suggestions for corrections and the like. Mapmikey responded to my suggestions, and I never responded to his response, having just skimmed it. So it looks like that thread may be waiting for a reply from me. And this was -- good lord -- a MONTH ago. Many apologies for dropping the ball here. I'm a big jerkface who oftentimes takes forever to do things he says he's going to...
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Re: VA: US 460 in Petersburg
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2016, 06:50:02 am »
It should be noted that the entirety of the County Dr and Wagner Rd routes are located within the city of Petersburg.  And independent cities in Virginia are notorious for poor route signage.

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Re: VA: US 460 in Petersburg
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2016, 07:48:39 am »

TM shows US 460 following County Dr to I-95 exit 50 and shows 460 Business ending at the bottom of the ramps from exit 50. VA Highways Project seems to think US 460 was rerouted onto Wagner Rd ca. 2007: http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/us460b.htm
VDOT's current official state maps don't show enough detail in the area to say anything conclusive. I can't find an official text route log on line and while VDOT's website has GIS shapefiles available for download I lack the means to open and interpret them.

So what gives? Was US 460 officially rerouted by the state while the City of Petersburg is declining to acknowledge it? Or are the signs showing the reroute wrong?

Shapefiles continue to show the previous status - County Dr as mainline US 460 and Wagner Rd as an Urban Route.

The 2003 Route Log is the latest one I've seen.  A couple years back I wrote VDOT to ask if an update to that was in the works and the response I got was not encouraging.

CTB has stopped documenting nearly all route change actions.  The latest County Map atlas is 2004 which is before the signage was updated.

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Re: VA: US 460 in Petersburg
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2016, 01:52:33 pm »
The concurrency of US 460 and I 95 is broken. The waypoints for exits 50 and 50B do not match.

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Re: VA: US 460 in Petersburg
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2016, 08:05:11 pm »
The concurrency of US 460 and I 95 is broken. The waypoints for exits 50 and 50B do not match.

This has been corrected and is in my queue for Jim...

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Re: VA: US 460 in Petersburg
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2019, 05:11:25 pm »
Should this be marked as solved?  I went ahead and marked the US 74 Bypass (Monroe) as solved as well.