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Offline Spinoza

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2017, 05:01:29 am »
ANAS is in the process of regaining ownership of some roads previously transferred to Regions and Provinces.

Here's the list:
http://www.stradeanas.it/it/conferenza-unificata-libera-al-trasferimento-ad-anas-di-oltre-3500-km-rete-nazionale-e-regionale

Not sure when the actual transfer will take place.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2017, 06:01:13 am »
There were (I've only really got the North left to do) various routes in Marche (in particular) that ANAS listed, but didn't have a trace on and had descriptions like "SS456: from ex SS123" with SS123's listing having "from exSS456". I added a couple of them that were more major, even though mapping had them as SR routes, while left the ones I found it hard to trace. However these all seem to be coming back.

I believe Trentino-Sud-Tyrol signs the SS routes its provinces maintain as SS roads, rather than not having any.

And the whole creation of routes would be so much easier if they didn't break every time there was a newish bypass that had a bannered route (mostly Var) or - in the case of SS9 that I did last night - were discontinuous at every town of size mostly because of bypasses in the SS7xx range.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2017, 07:37:24 am »
I believe Trentino-Sud-Tyrol signs the SS routes its provinces maintain as SS roads, rather than not having any.

This is true, Trentino and Alto-Adige are autonomous regions, and have a lot of state-like competences. The SS routes there are still named as such, and basically are, even though they are managed by the autonomous provinces.

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And the whole creation of routes would be so much easier if they didn't break every time there was a newish bypass that had a bannered route (mostly Var) or - in the case of SS9 that I did last night - were discontinuous at every town of size mostly because of bypasses in the SS7xx range.

Amen to that...

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2017, 02:18:12 pm »
"It ass" is a very good description for this system (is Italian Road Numbering the worst in the EU?), but I 'only' have 50 routes left (unless I find yet more hiding in TAA), so it's almost there with the current lot (obviously there's the new bunch mentioned upthread) and I expect to be finished in the next couple of days.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2017, 04:22:21 pm »
(is Italian Road Numbering the worst in the EU?)

You've not yet completed grceo...

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2017, 07:20:27 pm »
Greece's isn't as bad - the issues I've found are more to do with alphabet, mountains, and most importantly: poor signage and mapping.

Italy's is logical, reasonably well signed, and most importantly: utterly crazy in its fastidiousness for the rules. This means SS routes going through towns and over passes while the province has bypassed it with a high quality SP road, or routes breaking because they haven't gone and fixed all the chainage markers downstream of an improvement so its SS123-SS123 Var-SS123.

Spain's Autovia/pista numbering comes a very close second with the prefix proliferation, but it doesn't have the annoying features Italy has, save on rare occasion - its sins are different.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2017, 10:51:10 am »
SS49 wayppint SS49_S should be renamed to SS49bis. The E66 wp should also be renamed.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #22 on: Today at 04:42:06 am »
The end waypoint of SS77Fol should be renamed SS3 instead of SS3Bis.

Also, SS16 dir/b near Ancona (Marche) is missing from the list.
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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #24 on: Today at 04:35:28 pm »
It's the second Dir route, so 'b'. I deliberately left it off in the hopes that no one would miss this short route that doesn't connect to any other. However I've done it now.