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Updates to Highway Data / ROU: DEx16 + DN1Y opening
« Last post by michih on April 21, 2024, 05:35:33 am »The Western bypass of Oradea is in service since end of March: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/1464920/post-187890871
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Last post by si404 on April 21, 2024, 04:09:42 am »Wyoming also signs them, but I haven't looked in detail yet.I'm partway through WY, and struggling to work out Idaho, so perhaps look at Nebraska or Nevada instead?
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Updates to Highway Data / BC: BC-1 issues
« Last post by rickmastfan67 on April 21, 2024, 02:30:38 am »NEW -> 38 - While it's a 'Bus only' exit, you never know if somebody would need it if they traveled on said bus that uses it.
*59 -> 59 (not a closed interchange)
MarPraRd -> 411
NEW -> CedDr (between +x133 & BalRd)
+x136 -> FordRd
SalRivRd -> needs recentered, as it's well off the interchange there
GolViewRd -> 780
+x243 -> needs recentered back on the highway, as it's pretty far north of it.
*59 -> 59 (not a closed interchange)
MarPraRd -> 411
NEW -> CedDr (between +x133 & BalRd)
+x136 -> FordRd
SalRivRd -> needs recentered, as it's well off the interchange there
GolViewRd -> 780
+x243 -> needs recentered back on the highway, as it's pretty far north of it.
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Updates to Highway Data / BC: BC-99 issues
« Last post by rickmastfan67 on April 21, 2024, 02:19:42 am »FurCreRd -> FurCreDr -- Also, should we split this into separate points? Exactly 1 mile (1.61km) between each set of ramps.
+x77 -> RivDr & recenter
?? -> Seems there's a point here where the road can be closed frequently enough to justify permanent barricades. Worthy of a point somehow? Just wonder what to name it.
NEW -> DowCreRd (would help break up the ~40 mile gap here without usable points)
+x77 -> RivDr & recenter
?? -> Seems there's a point here where the road can be closed frequently enough to justify permanent barricades. Worthy of a point somehow? Just wonder what to name it.
NEW -> DowCreRd (would help break up the ~40 mile gap here without usable points)
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Last post by neroute2 on April 21, 2024, 01:52:29 am »Oregon Trail/California Trail/Pony Express in Kansas:
All three enter from Nebraska on K-148 and turn east on US 36.
At US 77, the Oregon Trail and California Trail turn right, while the Pony Express and a spur of the California Trail continue straight.
The Oregon and California Trails go east on K-9, south on K-99, east on US 24, south from Rossville, east on I-70, east on US 40 and old US 40 into Lawrence, south on US 59, east on old K-10 and K-10, then probably east and north on I-435 (definitely on I-435 in Missouri), but I don't know how far (probably at least to US 24 east).
The Pony Express and California Trail spur use US 36 into Missouri, where they use I-29 Bus north to at least Mitchell Street.
Wyoming also signs them, but I haven't looked in detail yet.
All three enter from Nebraska on K-148 and turn east on US 36.
At US 77, the Oregon Trail and California Trail turn right, while the Pony Express and a spur of the California Trail continue straight.
The Oregon and California Trails go east on K-9, south on K-99, east on US 24, south from Rossville, east on I-70, east on US 40 and old US 40 into Lawrence, south on US 59, east on old K-10 and K-10, then probably east and north on I-435 (definitely on I-435 in Missouri), but I don't know how far (probably at least to US 24 east).
The Pony Express and California Trail spur use US 36 into Missouri, where they use I-29 Bus north to at least Mitchell Street.
Wyoming also signs them, but I haven't looked in detail yet.
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Updates to Highway Data / KS 99 Truck (Wamego)
« Last post by neroute2 on April 21, 2024, 01:21:45 am »This uses US 24, Balderson Boulevard, and Valley Street (there is no Truck US 24; those signs are for trucks from K-99 northbound to US 24).
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Updates to Highway Data / Re: MO: I-70 BL St. Charles Being Deleted?
« Last post by neroute2 on April 20, 2024, 05:52:33 pm »It's not on the HPMAP (but I don't know if it ever was).
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Updates to Highway Data / MO: I-70 BL St. Charles Being Deleted?
« Last post by theFXexpert on April 20, 2024, 01:41:50 pm »I was in St. Louis last week and went to clinch this business loop while in the area in the westbound direction, but I noticed shields for the business loop were missing from BGSs on I-70 westbound for the Fifth St. exit including the exit ramp.
This may be the BL referenced in the AASHTO 2022 Spring Meeting.
The one surface-level route marker going westbound that I could find in street view where it turns left at the university was no longer there.
Streetview shows the BL shields removed from BGSs on I-70 Eastbound at First Capitol Dr. and Fifth St. exits.
BL Shields were still present on I-70 Westbound APL BGSs for the First Capitol Dr. exit when I went by; this was the only remaining reference I saw.
This may be the BL referenced in the AASHTO 2022 Spring Meeting.
The one surface-level route marker going westbound that I could find in street view where it turns left at the university was no longer there.
Streetview shows the BL shields removed from BGSs on I-70 Eastbound at First Capitol Dr. and Fifth St. exits.
BL Shields were still present on I-70 Westbound APL BGSs for the First Capitol Dr. exit when I went by; this was the only remaining reference I saw.
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Other Discussion / Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Last post by drebbin37 on April 20, 2024, 01:16:10 am »This week's drive from CT to IL and back brought my total mileage in Active+Preview over 100,000 (still 300 mi short of that milestone in Active systems for now).
Highlights included filling some gaps on IN US6 & PA US20. Now I'm left with 4 small gaps on US6 east of the Mississippi and 8 of them on US20 in the same part of the country. After many years of shunpiking, I finally drove my last section of I-80 this side of NE I-76 for $4 worth of the Ohio Turnpike. I figured I'd better do it before they wind up going cashless, like everyone else seems to be doing. I also finished my last 5 miles of I-79 in Erie. New numbers added to my driven list on this trip were: 502 (PA), 957 (PA), and 600 (OH). I'll need to go farther south to gather my lowest missing numbers (381, 382, 398, 399).
Lowlights were slogging through the entire length of OH303 and dealing with road closures on IN110 and IN2.
I also got to drive the Lincoln Highway '1928 Route' in Indiana from Bourbon to Columbia City. It was very well signed and matched usatr exactly.
Highlights included filling some gaps on IN US6 & PA US20. Now I'm left with 4 small gaps on US6 east of the Mississippi and 8 of them on US20 in the same part of the country. After many years of shunpiking, I finally drove my last section of I-80 this side of NE I-76 for $4 worth of the Ohio Turnpike. I figured I'd better do it before they wind up going cashless, like everyone else seems to be doing. I also finished my last 5 miles of I-79 in Erie. New numbers added to my driven list on this trip were: 502 (PA), 957 (PA), and 600 (OH). I'll need to go farther south to gather my lowest missing numbers (381, 382, 398, 399).
Lowlights were slogging through the entire length of OH303 and dealing with road closures on IN110 and IN2.
I also got to drive the Lincoln Highway '1928 Route' in Indiana from Bourbon to Columbia City. It was very well signed and matched usatr exactly.
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: zafr: South Africa Main Provincial Roads
« Last post by shiggins on April 20, 2024, 12:48:56 am »R33:
R517: Should be R520.
+X523125: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Driefontein.
+X750809: Should be replaced by a visible point here, since any traffic heading northeast on R516 intending to turn southeast on R33 (or vice versa) would take this road. I don’t know whether the point should be called ToR516, though, because there is a reassurance marker for R516 on the connector road, so it might be a spur of R516.
R573: Construction began on a roundabout at this point in 2017, and N12/R33 and R573 were temporarily realigned. However, the roundabout has still not been completed, and it doesn’t look like much, if any, work has been done since 2018, so the temporary realignment may have become permanent.
Mot: Should be D1547.
You could break up a 33.06-mile stretch between Mot and R579 without any visible points by adding one at D241.
R542: Is not R542. Signed for Chrissiesmeer.
+X990054: Could be replaced with a visible point at this road signed for eMananza.
+X889296: Could be replaced with a visible point at this road signed for Lothair (before the sign got knocked over).
+X878981: Could be replaced with a visible point at this road signed for Empuluzi.
+X135906: Could be replaced with a visible point at this road signed for Fernie.
Between +X135906 and +X223296: Consider adding a point where R33 turns and/or at this road signed for Nerston which provides a link to R65 and a border crossing into eSwatini.
You could break up a 22.16-mile stretch between R65 and N2_W without any visible points by adding one at this road signed for Panbult.
+X453422: Could be replaced with a visible point at either of the two roads just on either side of the point. The northern road is signed for Luneburg (and the eNtombe Battlefield) and the southern road is signed for Commondale (which appears to refer to the area just east of the intersection).
+X235883: Could be moved slightly north and replaced with a visible point at this road signed for Hlungwana.
+X111880: Could be moved slight west and replaced with a visible point at this road signed for Kemslust.
VryByp_N: R33 is signed onto the bypass, not into Vryheid. Signs at P287 confirm this.
VryByp_S: Should be R34_S. R34 was signed west onto the bypass instead of north into Vryheid (until all the signs at that intersection disappeared), and the signs at the next intersection north heading into Vryheid confirm this.
+X863073: Could be replaced by a visible point at D303 a bit to the west.
+X868539: Could be replaced by a visible point a bit to the west at this road previously signed for the Blood River Battlefield (although this sign has been replaced by one at the next road west for the Ncome Museum, located at the battlefield).
You could break up a 23.53-mile stretch with no visible points between R63_W and Hel with a point at this road signed for the Rorke’s Drift Battlefield.
P151: While I could not find any signs confirming P151, P490 is signed at that intersection.
P513: This is M10 according to Wikipedia and OSM, but I could not find any signs for M10 anywhere.
R34:
You could break up a 38.52-mile stretch with no visible points between N14 and R504/R506 with a point at this road signed for Amalia and Losasa.
You could break up a 24.22-mile stretch with no visible points between N12_E and R59_S with a point at S526.
You could break up a 24.18-mile stretch with no visible points between S91 and R719 with a point at S531.
R70_W: We might have the wrong northwestern terminus of R70. Wikipedia says R70 ends at the roundabout on Church Street in Odendaalsrus, but the signs at that roundabout don’t mention R70, only R34. Signs at the southeastern end of the concurrency we have in TM have R70 only going southeast, and there are no signs for R70 at the interchange with R30. However, RDDA and OSM have the route currently in TM. If R70 gets truncated all the way to the southeastern end of the concurrency, this point should be renamed M3.
M4: Should be R730.
You could break up a 22.66-mile stretch with no visible points between M4 and R713 with a point at S181.
+X455083: Could be replaced by a visible point at S203 a bit to the west.
You could break up a 21.8-mile stretch with no visible points between R720_N and R37_N with a point at S273.
R37_N: Should be R57_N.
R37_S: Should be R57_S.
+X313863: Could be moved west around the curve and made into a visible point at S160.
+X787995: Could be moved west a ways and made into a visible point at S281_E.
FraAir: Should be S52.
You could break up a 32.92-mile stretch with no visible points between R543 and R722 with a point at S993/T2157.
You could break up a 28.89-mile stretch with no visible points between R722 and AllSt_S with a point at D91/D100.
+X411253: Could be replaced by a visible point at P42.
+X680796: Could be replaced by a visible point at D88.
Utr: Should be VanRooSt.
You could break up a 24.32-mile stretch with no visible points between Utr and R33_S with a point at D754.
+X863073: Could be replaced by a visible point at D303 a bit to the west.
VryByp_W: Should be R33_N. R34 is signed turning onto the bypass here.
VryByp_E: R34 was signed west onto the bypass instead of north into Vryheid (until all the signs at that intersection disappeared), and the signs at the next intersection north heading into Vryheid confirm this. R69 was also rerouted onto the bypass, so this point should be R69.
+X622793: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Gluckstadt.
+X140192: Could be replaced by a visible point at D38_N.
Mel: This point is not at an intersection. It could be moved two blocks south to Victoria Street or two blocks north to Downing Street.
+X831674: Could be replaced by a visible point at D255.
+X978612: Could be replaced by a visible point at D477.
+X181531: Could be replaced by a visible point at D2323.
D130: This point well east of D130.
P425: I couldn’t find any signs confirming this is P425, but it is signed as Main Road.
M231: I could not find any indication other than OSM that M231 exists. At R34, it is signed merely as North Central Arterial. However, Wikipedia and Google Maps claim North Central Arterial is R619. Wikipedia exclusively cites the RDDA, which neither has an entry for R619 nor mentions it in the route descriptions of N2 and R34. I did find one pair of signs at Via Davallia erected after the RDDA was published mentioning R619.
R35:
R542: Should be split into two points.
+X443804: Could be replaced with a visible point at this road signed for Oshoek.
+X310171: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Uitkoms.
+X232917: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Bloukop.
+X267297: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Perdekop.
Sorry for all of the suboptimal "this road signed for [insert destination here]" suggestions in this batch. It seems Mpumalanga does not bother signing any sort of road name or number on the vast majority of its rural backroads.
R517: Should be R520.
+X523125: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Driefontein.
+X750809: Should be replaced by a visible point here, since any traffic heading northeast on R516 intending to turn southeast on R33 (or vice versa) would take this road. I don’t know whether the point should be called ToR516, though, because there is a reassurance marker for R516 on the connector road, so it might be a spur of R516.
R573: Construction began on a roundabout at this point in 2017, and N12/R33 and R573 were temporarily realigned. However, the roundabout has still not been completed, and it doesn’t look like much, if any, work has been done since 2018, so the temporary realignment may have become permanent.
Mot: Should be D1547.
You could break up a 33.06-mile stretch between Mot and R579 without any visible points by adding one at D241.
R542: Is not R542. Signed for Chrissiesmeer.
+X990054: Could be replaced with a visible point at this road signed for eMananza.
+X889296: Could be replaced with a visible point at this road signed for Lothair (before the sign got knocked over).
+X878981: Could be replaced with a visible point at this road signed for Empuluzi.
+X135906: Could be replaced with a visible point at this road signed for Fernie.
Between +X135906 and +X223296: Consider adding a point where R33 turns and/or at this road signed for Nerston which provides a link to R65 and a border crossing into eSwatini.
You could break up a 22.16-mile stretch between R65 and N2_W without any visible points by adding one at this road signed for Panbult.
+X453422: Could be replaced with a visible point at either of the two roads just on either side of the point. The northern road is signed for Luneburg (and the eNtombe Battlefield) and the southern road is signed for Commondale (which appears to refer to the area just east of the intersection).
+X235883: Could be moved slightly north and replaced with a visible point at this road signed for Hlungwana.
+X111880: Could be moved slight west and replaced with a visible point at this road signed for Kemslust.
VryByp_N: R33 is signed onto the bypass, not into Vryheid. Signs at P287 confirm this.
VryByp_S: Should be R34_S. R34 was signed west onto the bypass instead of north into Vryheid (until all the signs at that intersection disappeared), and the signs at the next intersection north heading into Vryheid confirm this.
+X863073: Could be replaced by a visible point at D303 a bit to the west.
+X868539: Could be replaced by a visible point a bit to the west at this road previously signed for the Blood River Battlefield (although this sign has been replaced by one at the next road west for the Ncome Museum, located at the battlefield).
You could break up a 23.53-mile stretch with no visible points between R63_W and Hel with a point at this road signed for the Rorke’s Drift Battlefield.
P151: While I could not find any signs confirming P151, P490 is signed at that intersection.
P513: This is M10 according to Wikipedia and OSM, but I could not find any signs for M10 anywhere.
R34:
You could break up a 38.52-mile stretch with no visible points between N14 and R504/R506 with a point at this road signed for Amalia and Losasa.
You could break up a 24.22-mile stretch with no visible points between N12_E and R59_S with a point at S526.
You could break up a 24.18-mile stretch with no visible points between S91 and R719 with a point at S531.
R70_W: We might have the wrong northwestern terminus of R70. Wikipedia says R70 ends at the roundabout on Church Street in Odendaalsrus, but the signs at that roundabout don’t mention R70, only R34. Signs at the southeastern end of the concurrency we have in TM have R70 only going southeast, and there are no signs for R70 at the interchange with R30. However, RDDA and OSM have the route currently in TM. If R70 gets truncated all the way to the southeastern end of the concurrency, this point should be renamed M3.
M4: Should be R730.
You could break up a 22.66-mile stretch with no visible points between M4 and R713 with a point at S181.
+X455083: Could be replaced by a visible point at S203 a bit to the west.
You could break up a 21.8-mile stretch with no visible points between R720_N and R37_N with a point at S273.
R37_N: Should be R57_N.
R37_S: Should be R57_S.
+X313863: Could be moved west around the curve and made into a visible point at S160.
+X787995: Could be moved west a ways and made into a visible point at S281_E.
FraAir: Should be S52.
You could break up a 32.92-mile stretch with no visible points between R543 and R722 with a point at S993/T2157.
You could break up a 28.89-mile stretch with no visible points between R722 and AllSt_S with a point at D91/D100.
+X411253: Could be replaced by a visible point at P42.
+X680796: Could be replaced by a visible point at D88.
Utr: Should be VanRooSt.
You could break up a 24.32-mile stretch with no visible points between Utr and R33_S with a point at D754.
+X863073: Could be replaced by a visible point at D303 a bit to the west.
VryByp_W: Should be R33_N. R34 is signed turning onto the bypass here.
VryByp_E: R34 was signed west onto the bypass instead of north into Vryheid (until all the signs at that intersection disappeared), and the signs at the next intersection north heading into Vryheid confirm this. R69 was also rerouted onto the bypass, so this point should be R69.
+X622793: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Gluckstadt.
+X140192: Could be replaced by a visible point at D38_N.
Mel: This point is not at an intersection. It could be moved two blocks south to Victoria Street or two blocks north to Downing Street.
+X831674: Could be replaced by a visible point at D255.
+X978612: Could be replaced by a visible point at D477.
+X181531: Could be replaced by a visible point at D2323.
D130: This point well east of D130.
P425: I couldn’t find any signs confirming this is P425, but it is signed as Main Road.
M231: I could not find any indication other than OSM that M231 exists. At R34, it is signed merely as North Central Arterial. However, Wikipedia and Google Maps claim North Central Arterial is R619. Wikipedia exclusively cites the RDDA, which neither has an entry for R619 nor mentions it in the route descriptions of N2 and R34. I did find one pair of signs at Via Davallia erected after the RDDA was published mentioning R619.
R35:
R542: Should be split into two points.
+X443804: Could be replaced with a visible point at this road signed for Oshoek.
+X310171: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Uitkoms.
+X232917: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Bloukop.
+X267297: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Perdekop.
Sorry for all of the suboptimal "this road signed for [insert destination here]" suggestions in this batch. It seems Mpumalanga does not bother signing any sort of road name or number on the vast majority of its rural backroads.