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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2017, 12:59:42 pm »
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/1678/commits/c32439f5c194c90794fda2337a6fe5addad67c2e

N211 - need to check/fix E25/E30 between the Harbour and the N223. Current route of those routes require a point on this route at Harwichweg for concurrency split.

I'm not sure how E25 and E30 are routed. According to June 2016 GSV E30 has two routes from the roundabout at N213/N223 junction.
GSV images are from 2009, 2010, 2013, 2015 or June 2016. I would only go with June 2016 and E25/E30 are clearly signed at the end of N223 (GSV). N223 was not yet opened on 2015 GSV.

The second routing of E30 is not clear. Is it via N213/N211 or N220/N211?
On N211 E30 and E25 are signed again here and here. I drove N213 about six weeks ago and I'm quite sure that no E route is signed. June 2016 (or older) GSV does not show any E numbering on N213 nor N220.

I could route both main routes via N223 and add a branch of E30 (and E25?) to N211 but via N220 or via N213? Or should I ignore the branch?


N236 - add point for Kaanaldijk GSJ

I think it's not a GSJ because you can turn left.

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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2017, 12:22:39 pm »
N250 - fine
N251 - BogStr needs moving to road
N252 - N61/N62 now just N61
N253 - fine
N254 - fine
N255 - fine
N256 - fine
N257 - fine
N258 - fine
N260 - Bos -> BaaWeg; enters Belgium at northern edge of Baarle urban area, and from centre southward, so needs splitting into 3 Dutch and 2 Belgian sections
N260A - fine
N261 - fine
N262 - fine
N263 - fine
N264 - new route around Haps
N266 - fine
N267 - fine
N268 - fine
N269 - fine
N270 - Nuenen -> ColHoefDijk or SmiOyenLaan (also A270); break either side of A270?; A270_W -> WolDijk?; A270_E -> BraDre?; Have more accurate A/N transition points
N271 - fine
N272 - move SchWeg to Noord-Om; errSti -> EerSti
N273 - fine
N274 - fine
N274Bru - fine
N275 - fine
N276 - fine
N277 - fine
N278 - GSJ at Endepolsdomein?
N279 - fine
N280 - fine
N281 - fine
N282 - fine
N283 - fine
N284 - fine
N285 - fine
N286 - fine
N287 - fine
N288 - fine
N289 - fine
N290 - fine
N291 - fine
N292 - add a point for Stramproy and/or Tungelroy?
N293 - fine
N294 - fine
N295 - fine
N296 - fine
N297 - fine
N298 - No direct route between A76(5) and SchWeg due to N300 construction - either split route, or get points sorted for when N300 opens (soon?)
N299 - No direct route between N300_S and DenWeg. Either reroute slightly, or split (N274-N300_N and DenWeg-DEU)

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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2017, 07:29:50 am »
N300 - fine
N300Bru - fine
N301 - fine
N302 - fine
N303 - point for Ceintuurbaan to match N302 point?
N304 - fine
N305 - fine
N306 - fine
N307 - fine
N308 - fine
N309 - fine
N310 - Nunspeet bypass?
N311 - fine
N312 - fine
N313 - fine
N314 - fine
N315 - fine
N316 - fine
N317 - fine
N318 - fine
N319 - fine
N320 - fine
N321 - fine
N322 - fine
N323 - fine
N324 - fine
N325 - split either side of A325
N326 - fine
N327 - fine
N329 - fine
N329App - fine
N330 - fine
N331 - fine
N332 - fine
N333 - fine
N334 - fine
N335 - fine
N336 - fine
N337 - fine
N338 - fine
N339 - fine
N340 - fine
N341 - fine
N342 - fine, other than name
N342Old - name misleading as this is a short spur, with the other section serving Oldenzaal better
N343 - fine
N344 - fine
N345 - fine
N346 - fine
N347 - Hellendoorn bypass now open just north of N35
N348 - fine
N349 - fine

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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2017, 09:24:40 am »
finished the primary provincial roads

N350 - fine
N351 - fine
N352 - fine
N353 - fine
N354 - fine
N355 - fine
N356 - fine
N357 - fine
N358 - fine
N359 - fine
N360 - fine
N361 - fine
N362 - fine
N363 - fine
N365 - fine
N366 - fine
N367 - fine
N368 - fine
N369 - fine
N370 - N46 -> 7; N355 -> 12; delete current 12
N371 - fine
N372 - fine
N373 - fine
N374 - fine
N375 - fine
N376 - fine
N377 - fine
N378 - fine
N379 - additional points between N374 and N391
N380 - fine
N381 - fine
N382 - fine
N383 - fine
N384 - fine
N385 - fine
N386 - fine
N387 - fine
N388 - fine
N389 - fine
N390 - fine
N391 - fine
N392 - fine
N393 - fine
N394 - fine
N395 - fine
N396 - fine
N397 - fine
N398 - fine

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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2017, 10:12:58 am »
N401 - fine
N402 - fine
N403 - fine
N405 - fine
N408 - fine
N409 - fine
N410 - fine
N411 - fine
N412 - fine
N413 - fine
N414 - fine
N415 - fine
N416 - fine
N417 - fine
N418 - fine
N419 - fine
N419Aan - fine
N421 - fine
N440 - fine
N441 - fine
N442 - fine
N443 - fine
N444 - fine
N445 - fine
N446 - fine
N447 - fine
N448 - fine
N449 - fine
N450 - fine
N451 - fine
N452 - fine
N453 - fine
N454 - fine
N455 - fine
N456 - fine
N457 - fine
N458 - fine
N459 - fine
N460 - fine
N461 - fine
N462 - fine
N463 - fine
N464 - fine
N466 - fine
N467 - fine
N468 - fine
N470 - fine
N471 - fine
N472 - fine
N474 - fine
N475 - fine
N476 - fine
N477 - fine
N478 - fine
N479 - fine
N480 - fine
N481 - fine
N482 - N314 -> N214
N483 - is this not N484? Per OSM, Google Maps, Street View and Wegenwiki
N487 - fine
N488 - fine
N489 - fine
N491 - fine
N492 - fine
N493 - fine
N494 - fine
N495 - fine
N496 - fine
N497 - fine
N498 - fine

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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2017, 11:24:51 am »
N501 - route has junction numbers (ascending from the south) and reaches a lot further north
N502 - fine
N503 - fine
N504 - fine
N506 - fine
N507 - fine
N508 - fine
N509 - fine
N510 - fine
N511 - fine
N512 - fine
N513 - fine
N514 - fine
N516 - fine
N517 - fine
N518 - fine
N519 - fine
N520 - fine
N521 - fine
N522 - fine
N523 - fine
N525 - fine
N526 - fine
N527 - fine
N554 - fine
N556 - fine
N562 - fine
N564 - fine
N570 - fine
N572 - fine
N581 - fine
N590 - fine
N595 - fine
N598 - fine

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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2017, 12:06:25 pm »
N602 - fine
N605 - fine
N607 - fine
N612 - fine
N613 - fine
N615 - fine
N616 - fine
N617 - fine
N618 - fine
N620 - fine
N622 - fine
N625 - fine
N629 - fine
N631 - fine
N632 - fine
N637 - fine
N638 - fine
N639 - fine
BEL N639Baa - fine
N639Baa - fine
N640 - fine
N641 - fine
N651 - fine
N652 - fine
N653 - fine
N654 - fine
N655 - fine
N656 - fine
N658 - fine
N659 - fine
N660 - fine
N661 - fine
N662 - fine
N663 - fine
N664 - N256 -> A256
N665 - fine
N666 - fine
N667 - fine
N668 - fine
N669 - fine
N670 - fine
N671 - fine
N673 - fine
N674 - fine
N675 - fine
N676 - fine
N682 - fine
N683 - fine
N686 - fine
N689 - fine
N690 - fine

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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2017, 02:12:59 pm »
N701 - fine
N702 - fine
N703 - fine
N704 - fine
N705 - fine
N706 - fine
N707 - fine
N708 - fine
N709 - fine
N710 - fine
N711 - fine
N712 - fine
N713 - fine
N714 - fine
N715 - fine
N716 - fine
N717 - fine
N718 - fine
N719 - fine
N720 - fine
N731 - fine
N732 - fine
N733 - fine
N734 - fine
N735 - fine
N736 - fine
N737 - OudeVliStr needs moving to junction
N738 - fine
N739 - fine
N740 - fine
N741 - fine
N742 - fine
N743 - fine
N744 - fine
N745 - fine
N746 - fine
N747 - fine
N748 - fine
N749 - fine
N750 - fine
N751 - fine
N752 - fine
N753 - fine
N754 - fine
N755 - fine
N756 - fine
N757 - fine
N758 - fine
N759 - fine
N760 - fine
N761 - fine
N762 - fine
N763 - fine
N764 - fine
N765 - fine
N766 - fine
N781 - fine
N782 - fine
N783 - fine
N784 - move A12 point to between the east- and west-bound ramps (and perhaps add a point on A12 and E30) or move it to the A50's A12 point
N785 - fine
N786 - fine
N787 - fine
N788 - fine
N789 - fine
N790 - fine
N791 - MolAll -> MolAll_W
N792 - fine
N794 - fine
N795 - fine
N796 - fine
N797 - fine
N798 - fine

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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2017, 03:36:51 pm »
N342 - fine, other than name
N342Old - name misleading as this is a short spur, with the other section serving Oldenzaal better

What do you suggest?

N501 - route has junction numbers (ascending from the south) and reaches a lot further north

It is numbered till De Koog but the last sign indicating N501 is near exit 10  according to GSV (plus wegenwiki and GM). OSM has only labels in De Koog again. Should I extend it anyway?
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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2017, 07:07:31 pm »
N800 - fine
N801 - fine
N802 - fine
N804 - fine
N806 - fine
N810 - fine
N811 - fine
N812 - fine
N813 - fine
N814 - fine
N815 - fine
N816 - fine
N817 - fine
N818 - fine
N819 - fine
N820 - fine
N821 - fine
N822 - fine
N823 - fine
N824 - fine
N825 - fine
N826 - fine
N827 - fine
N830 - fine
N831 - fine
N832 - fine
N833 - fine
N834 - fine
N835 - fine
N836 - fine
N837 - fine
N838 - fine
N839 - fine
N840 - fine
N844 - fine
N845 - fine
N846 - fine
N847 - fine
N848 - fine
N851 - fine
N853 - fine
N854 - fine
N855 - fine
N856 - fine
N857 - fine
N858 - fine
N860 - fine
N862 - fine
N863 - fine
N865 - fine

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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2017, 07:11:03 pm »
What do you suggest?
You have N419 (Harmelen) and N419 (Aansluiting Harmelen) for a similar set up - that would be good.
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It is numbered till De Koog but the last sign indicating N501 is near exit 10  according to GSV (plus wegenwiki and GM). OSM has only labels in De Koog again. Should I extend it anyway?
Leave it at where signage dies out.

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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2017, 07:29:14 pm »
and the 900s are as dull as the 800s in terms of review: all fine

N910 - fine
N913 - fine
N915 - fine
N917 - fine
N918 - fine
N919 - fine
N924 - fine
N927 - fine
N928 - fine
N962 - fine
N963 - fine
N964 - fine
N966 - fine
N967 - fine
N969 - fine
N972 - fine
N973 - fine
N974 - fine
N975 - fine
N976 - fine
N978 - fine
N979 - fine
N980 - fine
N981 - fine
N982 - fine
N983 - fine
N984 - fine
N985 - fine
N987 - fine
N988 - fine
N989 - fine
N990 - fine
N991 - fine
N992 - fine
N993 - fine
N994 - fine
N995 - fine
N996 - fine
N997 - fine
N998 - fine
N999 - fine

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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2017, 09:18:20 am »
Thanks for the review. nldp will be activated now.

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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2017, 09:23:58 am »
There are also signed(!) ring roads: Bewegwijzerde ringwegen in Nederland. I think it's quite similar to Stadsroutes (nlds).



Should I add another tier 5 system, e.g.: nldrw Netherlands Ringwegen?
Up to you.
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Some are already (partially or fully) covered by nlda, nldr, nldp or nlds.
But, at the same time, if they are also signed with the <RING> signs, then are they part of both systems. If one includes such, then one needs to include all such, even if it is duplication of existing route.

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Re: Netherlands Niet-Autosnelwegen (nldr / nldp / nlds)
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2017, 03:28:50 pm »
Ok, I've added nldrw system. It's preview now.

I think I'll activate nldp tomorrow.