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AASHTO Spring 2017
« on: June 09, 2017, 01:20:25 pm »
http://route.transportation.org/Pages/Past-Meetings.aspx

The applications Part 1, Part 2

Summary of approvals

Arkansas US 62/US 412 Relocation: Between U.S. Highway 62B west of the City of Cotter and U.S. Highway 62B in the City of Cotter
Arkansas US 62B Recognition of a Business Route: Between U.S. Highway 62B west of the City of Cotter and U.S. Highway 62B in the City of Cotter
Arkansas US 62/US 412 Relocation: Between U.S. Highway 62B in west Mountain Home and U.S. Highway 62B in east Mountain Home
Arkansas US 62B Recognition of a Business Route: Between U.S. Highway 62B in west Mountain Home and U.S. Highway 62B in east Mountain Home
Arkansas US 70 DeQueen Relocation: Between U.S. Highway 70B west of De Queen and U.S. Highway 70B/71 in De Queen
Arkansas US 70B DeQueen Recognition of a Business Route: Between U.S. Highway 70 west of De Queen and U.S. Highway 70/71 in De Queen
Arkansas US 70 Glenwood New location: Between State Highway 8 in west Glenwood and U.S. Highway 70B in east Glenwood
Arkansas US 70B Glenwood Recognition of a Business Route: Between U.S. Highway 70 in west Glenwood and U.S. Highway 70 in east Glenwood

Florida US221 Relocation: Between US 27 and CR359A in Perry, FL requires clarification

Georgia US 129 Relocation: Between NE of Gray and SW of Gray requires clarification

Illinois US 12 & 45 Relocation: Between Intersection of Rand Road (Des Plaines) and Intersection of Elk Blvd. (Des Plaines) requires clarification
Illinois US 45 Relocation: Between Intersection of County Place (Lindenhurst) and 1500 ft. North of Independence Blvd. (Lindenhurst) requires clarification

Nevada US 50 Relocation: Between Fairview Dr. And Spooner Summit Intersection at the Jct. of IR580/US395 requires clarification
Nevada US 93 Relocation: Between Foothills Dr. and SR172 requires clarification
Nevada US 93 Bus Recognition of a Business Route: Between IR11 and SR172 requires clarification
Nevada US 95 Relocation: Between and Railroad Pass lntg. Foothills Dr. {Old US93/0ldUS95 lntg.) requires clarification
Nevada US 395 Relocation: Between Fairview Dr. And Spooner Intersection at Jct of IR580/US50 requires clarification

New York US 220 Eliminate: Between Chemung St (CR 60) of I 86/NY 17 (Exit 60) and New York-Pennsylvania State Line just north of junction requires clarification

North Carolina I 495 Future Eliminate: Between I-540 in Knightdale (Wake County) and I-95 in Rocky Mount (Nash County)
North Carolina I 495 Eliminate: Between I-440 in Raleigh (Wake County) and I-540 in Knightdale (Wake County)

Texas US 87 Relocation: Between: 1.3 miles north of Farm To Market Road 700 and the intersection US 87 and 1-20 (west of the city of Big Spring).
Texas US 90 Relocation: Between: Interstate Highway 1 O at College Street and Interstate Highway 1 O at the Neches River Bridge

Wisconsin US 12 Eliminate: Between Lake Delton and Baraboo

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Re: AASHTO Spring 2017
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2017, 03:26:22 pm »
AS NE2 pointed out at the AARoads forum (now back up and running), many of the Arkansas approvals seem to ratify reroutes done long ago, and so might not require us to do anything.

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Re: AASHTO Spring 2017
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2017, 04:29:34 am »
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AS NE2 pointed out at the AARoads forum (now back up and running), many of the Arkansas approvals seem to ratify reroutes done long ago, and so might not require us to do anything.
All of them, in fact. No action required.

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New York US 220 Eliminate: Between Chemung St (CR 60) of I 86/NY 17 (Exit 60) and New York-Pennsylvania State Line just north of junction requires clarification
I would parse the text in the PDF as "Between Chemung St (CR 60) and New York-Pennsylvania State Line just north of junction of I 86/NY 17 (Exit 60)", which is straightforward enough. With no application from PennDOT, it looks like the NY segment gets zapped, clean & easy, and the PA segment stays as-is. There's precedent for this: US46 exists only in NJ, and ends at the NY state line.

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Texas US 87 Relocation: Between: 1.3 miles north of Farm To Market Road 700 and the intersection US 87 and 1-20 (west of the city of Big Spring).
Still under construction. Added to Texas outlook.

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Texas US 90 Relocation: Between: Interstate Highway 1 O at College Street and Interstate Highway 1 O at the Neches River Bridge
Might as well do this one right away though.

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Wisconsin US 12 Eliminate: Between Lake Delton and Baraboo
You mean, Recognition of a Business Route?
« Last Edit: July 24, 2017, 02:30:43 am by yakra »

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Re: AASHTO Spring 2017
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2017, 06:00:24 am »
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Wisconsin US 12 Eliminate: Between Lake Delton and Baraboo
You mean, Recognition of a Business Route?
I just copied the summaries from the summary document, but yes.

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Re: AASHTO Spring 2017
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2017, 09:51:49 am »
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Wisconsin US 12 Eliminate: Between Lake Delton and Baraboo
You mean, Recognition of a Business Route?
I just copied the summaries from the summary document, but yes.

It looks, from the application, that US 12 in Baraboo will be moved to a new bypass when it's completed. Complicating the redesignation of the old alignment as a business route is that there are already two US 12 business routes on that stretch.

I'll leave it to Jeff to sort it out, but at least there apparently will be no break in US 12 in WI.

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Re: AASHTO Spring 2017
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2017, 11:16:35 am »
North Carolina I 495 Future Eliminate: Between I-540 in Knightdale (Wake County) and I-95 in Rocky Mount (Nash County)
North Carolina I 495 Eliminate: Between I-440 in Raleigh (Wake County) and I-540 in Knightdale (Wake County)
We should wait until the signage is changed to I-87 and redo both segments to reflect the new exit numbers.

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Re: AASHTO Spring 2017
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2017, 12:25:04 pm »
Florida US221 Relocation: Between US 27 and CR359A in Perry, FL requires clarification

Kind of a stupid minor reroute.  I would have personally ended it at US-19/27/98 on the reroute along CR-105 and unhid the state route number for the small orphaned segment south of town between US-27 & US-19/98/27Alt.  But, whatever floats FDOT's boat. lol.

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Re: AASHTO Spring 2017
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2017, 01:46:52 pm »
Georgia US 129 Relocation: Between NE of Gray and SW of Gray requires clarification

Per page 94 of the Part 1 document:

"Beginning at the junction of present U. S. Route 129 and a newly constructed facility northeast of Gray, then extending in a
westerly and southerly direction over the new facility for 5.50 miles to the junction with present U. S. Route 129/State
Routes 11, 18, 22/U.S. 129 southwest of Gray."

Page 90 indicates that this is on the "Gray Bypass" (GMaps, OSM).

The document does not, however, indicate how or if it affects the routing of GA 11, GA 22, or GA 44. All US highways in Georgia have at least one underlying state route, so some rerouting (or creation of a new route) would be required. My best guess would be that GA 22 uses the new bypass in its entirety, but I currently have no evidence for that.

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Re: AASHTO Spring 2017
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2017, 05:08:05 am »
Complicating the redesignation of the old alignment as a business route is that there are already two US 12 business routes on that stretch.
My takeaway is that both routes will be connected, via a short stretch of current US12: WI US12 US12BusWBa_E WI33/136 (Like wow, is the US12BusWBa_E roundabout going to be demolished?)
Current US12, WI US12 WI33/136 US12BusBar_E, will be unnumbered, making for an awkwardly-shaped route that will appease the local, well, businesses.

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Re: AASHTO Spring 2017
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2017, 02:25:21 pm »
Illinois US 12 & 45 Relocation: Between Intersection of Rand Road (Des Plaines) and Intersection of Elk Blvd. (Des Plaines) requires clarification
Illinois US 45 Relocation: Between Intersection of County Place (Lindenhurst) and 1500 ft. North of Independence Blvd. (Lindenhurst) requires clarification
The first is small enough that it won't affect things. The interesting thing here is that it's the street right in front of the McDonald's Museum. The second, I don't think is built.

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Wisconsin US 12 Eliminate: Between Lake Delton and Baraboo
Well, when it happens, I'll figure it out.

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US 12/45 in Des Plaines IL (was: AASHTO Spring 2017)
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2017, 09:40:57 pm »
Illinois US 12 & 45 Relocation: Between Intersection of Rand Road (Des Plaines) and Intersection of Elk Blvd. (Des Plaines) requires clarification
Illinois US 45 Relocation: Between Intersection of County Place (Lindenhurst) and 1500 ft. North of Independence Blvd. (Lindenhurst) requires clarification
The first is small enough that it won't affect things. The interesting thing here is that it's the street right in front of the McDonald's Museum.

I drove US 12 in that area this afternoon, to make sure I completed my nationwide clinch of US 12  when I drove the Baraboo Bypass in the morning.

Southbound US 12 traffic follows the path shown in the HB, passing by the McDonald's Museum (didn't have time to stop there, even though I worked a summer at a McD's in southern California more than four decades ago). Indeed, traffic turning south from Rand Rd. is forced by a barrier to go on Lee Street, rather than turn onto Des Plaines River Rd.

Northbound, however, signage directs US 12 (and US 45) travelers to turn right from Lee St. onto Elk Blvd., then turn left on Rand Rd. to connect to US 12 and US 45 at the Rand/Des Plaines River intersection. My guess is this was done to make that a "no left turns" intersection, and moving the left turns for northbound traffic to a better location. This doesn't quite match up with what I recall from the AASHTO application (I ran into some dead links trying to look it up this week, and didn't have time to search again), but maybe my recollection is wrong.

Jeff can figure out what, if anything, needs to be done. My guess is that with east/southbound US 12/45 traffic still following the route shown in the HB, the answer will be "nothing".
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Re: AASHTO Spring 2017
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2017, 05:59:34 pm »
North Carolina I 495 Future Eliminate: Between I-540 in Knightdale (Wake County) and I-95 in Rocky Mount (Nash County)
North Carolina I 495 Eliminate: Between I-440 in Raleigh (Wake County) and I-540 in Knightdale (Wake County)

Now happening and being replaced with I-87 shields.
http://tm.teresco.org/forum/index.php?topic=2210.0

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Re: AASHTO Spring 2017
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2017, 09:03:23 pm »
Georgia US 129 Relocation: Between NE of Gray and SW of Gray requires clarification

Per page 94 of the Part 1 document:

"Beginning at the junction of present U. S. Route 129 and a newly constructed facility northeast of Gray, then extending in a
westerly and southerly direction over the new facility for 5.50 miles to the junction with present U. S. Route 129/State
Routes 11, 18, 22/U.S. 129 southwest of Gray."

Page 90 indicates that this is on the "Gray Bypass" (GMaps, OSM).

The document does not, however, indicate how or if it affects the routing of GA 11, GA 22, or GA 44. All US highways in Georgia have at least one underlying state route, so some rerouting (or creation of a new route) would be required. My best guess would be that GA 22 uses the new bypass in its entirety, but I currently have no evidence for that.

So I went ahead and did some research on this in GDOT's GeoPI system, specifically looking for the signing plans. In addition to the US 129 move, there are also the following changes:

  • GA 22 will follow the bypass in its entirety.
  • GA 11 will follow the bypass around the west side. Note the grade separation between the bypass and current GA 11; the route will use that connector. (Some of the signing plan sheets are showing this as GA 11 Connector, but I believe those to be errors, as GA 11 would otherwise be discontinuous.)
  • The portions of GA 11, 22, and 44 inside the bypass appear to be dropped from the state system, except for those parts concurrent with GA 18, which looks to be unchanged.