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Offline michih

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2017, 09:51:57 am »
SS5 + SS5Ori + SS5Qua:
Fine


SS6:
+X828144 could be removed


SS6Dir:
Fine


SS7 + SS7Cas:
I minimum saw a sign in the roundabout at the current SS7 end. It's confirmed by OSM and GM and routes could be merged but ANAS says NO!


SS7Ben:
SS7_S --> RA9_xxx
GSJ @ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.879212&lon=14.986811
New wp @ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.735161&lon=15.497144
Extends to Potenza according to GSV, GM and OSM but not by ANAS. I should check ANAS first next time...


SS7DirBor:
Couldn't find any "SS7Bis" sign on OSM/GM/GSV (only OSM "SS7quarter")


Remaining SS7xxx:
All fine

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2018, 11:16:19 pm »
A bit late to the party here.
Italy is the first I've been aware of banners being used outside of North America. (Is there anywhere else?)
The standard in North America has been for every bannered route to have both a City and Abbrev. I like the idea of, for consistency's sake, expanding that to be a sitewide standard. (Not saying there's no way in Centralia you'd convince me otherwise though.)

Similarly, in itaa.csv, maybe
itaa;ITA;A18;Dir;;Diramazione per Catania;ita.a018dircat;A18Cat
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itaa;ITA;A18;Dir;Cat;Diramazione per Catania;ita.a018dircat;A18Dir,A18Cat
...and the .list name would match the route root.

--There are some cases of unique Route+Banner combinations still having a City & Abbrev, E.G ita.ss027vargig.
Consistency would dictate either losing the City & Abbrev, or adding City & Abbrev to all bannered routes. Again, I prefer the latter approach.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 12:54:32 pm by yakra »

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2018, 11:05:10 am »
(Is there anywhere else?)

I use ALT banner in combination with city names in Germany (3+3 characters)

http://tm.teresco.org/forum/index.php?topic=289

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2018, 10:00:45 am »
SS9Dir:
There is no corresponding SS472 route to SS472 waypoint


SS9Fid:
New wp west of Pontenure (junction to bypass)


SS9For:
SP9? Is it signed anywhere? OSM/GM do not indicate it.


Other SS9 routes:
Fine

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2018, 04:05:23 am »
What happened withe the italian SS? It dissappeared from the highway browser.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2018, 06:30:12 am »
Making bannered routes conform with the rest of the site created loads of errors. I've got a fixed ready to be inputted, so it'll be back tomorrow hopefully.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2018, 01:07:06 pm »
I'll continue the peer-review once itass will be back and graphs will be updated in a week or so.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2018, 01:33:12 pm »
@si404 if you can get the pull request in soon (before about 2:15 EST) I can run an extra update to get this system back in the DB.  That would allow me to include graph generation one more time since my students are unlikely to have started working with any graphs yet on the new assignment they just got a couple hours ago.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2018, 03:03:21 pm »
No need to rush! I just wanted Si to know that I'll continue soon. It's (shortcut of it ass) is less painful than the next system on my list... korex... Maybe I should continue with svkii or svnr.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2018, 03:39:17 pm »
Don't worry about graph creation and the like - the addition of NSA routes (basically unnumbered SS roads that have been numbered with something else) is going to occupy me on this system for a while.

As for peer review - I don't mind if you do continue reviewing itass, but would love korex to be done. As a motorway system with (mostly) numbered exits it is much less of an ass than itass, IMO, plus not doing itass allows me to look at signage and add NSA routes and such like.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2018, 04:12:11 pm »
NSA routes (basically unnumbered SS roads that have been numbered with something else)

A system of unnumbered routes? Another tier 4 or tier 5?

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2018, 11:38:39 am »
A system of unnumbered routes? Another tier 4 or tier 5?
They are Strada Statale, just not having SS numbers yet (or detrunked yet if heading the other direction), so they are going in itass just as all the green-hexagon roads are in itaa, even if they aren't Axx.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2018, 12:20:48 pm »
A system of unnumbered routes? Another tier 4 or tier 5?
They are Strada Statale, just not having SS numbers yet (or detrunked yet if heading the other direction), so they are going in itass just as all the green-hexagon roads are in itaa, even if they aren't Axx.

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strade_statali_in_Italia

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NSA (nuova strada ANAS), strade in attesa di classificazione
Google translated:
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NSA (new road ANAS), roads waiting for classification

Sounds similar to future US interstates but there are also "ex" NSA routes. Former SS routes are "future" SS routes now....  ;D

I guess it will be a tier 5 system?

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuova_strada_ANAS

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2018, 03:15:56 am »
I think you guys should seriously put a changelog every time you modify route names... now I found myself with a bunch of Italy SS roads with different names and cannot understand what they changed into...

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2018, 05:17:42 am »
Sorry, that's my fault. We have a system that keeps old route names to save people changing them and I didn't employ it. I too need to go and fix my .list file too.

We have a change log for active systems, but not for preview ones, which we do warn that "These may still undergo significant changes without notification." on the front page.