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Offline si404

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Belize Roads
« on: January 23, 2018, 05:05:36 pm »
Hopefully these 4 highways will be put into TM someday.
Make the files and they will be.  :P

I've deliberately ignored Latin America when expanding TM's coverage across the world because there's loads of collaborators for whom it's not across an ocean! Plus Eurasiafrica is enough to be getting on with. ;)

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Re: Belize Roads
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2018, 04:06:54 pm »
Make the files and they will be.  :P



ok I have made files for 8 routes that made the most sense to me:

George Price Hwy
Northern Hwy
Old Northern Hwy
Hummingbird Hwy
Coastal Hwy
Southern Hwy
Progresso Rd
Burrell Boom Cut

Street names are hard to come by (no GMSV in Belize) even on multiple on-line maps, so some points are just the name of the community they lie in.  There are a couple of VD errors for which there is no real place to put another point so they are False Positives in my view.

Anyway, now that the wpt files are created, who/where should I send them?
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Re: Belize Roads
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2018, 01:08:31 pm »
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Belize has just 4 highways (no numbering)
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made files for 8 routes
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Re: Belize Roads
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2018, 01:23:12 pm »
The 4 highways statement came from the tour guide.  These may be the only fully paved routes but without GMSV it is hard to know.

The 8 files I created come from looking at a map and deciding which roads made sense to include in a TM system.  Future Belize travelers might suggest additional roads (though there aren't many more non-local short roads) and I would be happy to include them.
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Re: Belize Roads
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2018, 02:06:47 pm »
Are the routes signed?

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Re: Belize Roads
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2018, 03:58:20 pm »

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSI9Z6GUMAAvCoV.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d5/32/2e/d5322e308a6644a0340c839cdc860556--belize-vacations-planning.jpg

Progresso Rd is an amalgam of 3 roads of which Progresso-xxxx Rd is the name of 2 of them.

Not many google images out there to absolutely prove all are signed.  It does appear the Burrell Boom Cut is paved throughout and the Old Northern Hwy (leads to one of the top tourist stops in Belize - Altun Ha) appears to have been paved but may not be getting the fullest maintenance anymore.
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Re: Belize Roads
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2018, 09:30:34 am »
I am a highway engineer by profession and a fan of the Travel Mapping site. I also happen to be familiar with the road system in Belize.

The four main roads in Belize that are considered the primary highway system (with their road numbers and names) are listed below. They all have road numbers that start with AR. The Orange Walk bypass is also considered a primary road:

AR1   Western Highway (now known as the George Price Highway)
   from Belize City to the Guatemala border, 74.7 miles

AR2   Northern Highway (now known as the Philip Goldson Highway), from Belize City to the Mexico
        border, 92.1 mi

AR2-B Orange Walk Bypass, from the Northern Highway at Mile 52 south of Orange Walk to the
     Northern Highway at Mile 56 north of Orange Walk, 4.7 mi

AR3   Hummingbird Highway, from Dandriga to the Western Highway at the edge of Belmopan,
        55.2 mi

AR4   Southern Highway, from Mile 6 on the Hummingbird Highway to Punta Gorda, 100.4 mi

All of these primary roads are paved. In Belize, the road numbers are not posted on guide signs. The road names are shown on guide signs at major intersections, but not typically marked in between. The primary roads listed above are mileposted, but there is not always a milepost in the field every mile. (And, yes, Belize is one of the few countries, in addition to the U.S., that uses miles rather than kilometers.) I definitely recommend including the primary roads listed above.

There is one other road that is considered a primary road just for the 0.5 mi paved portion:

A5   Manatee Highway (also known as Coastal Highway), from the Western Highway south for 0.5
        miles.

The rest of the Manatee/Coastal Highway south to the Hummingbird Highway is not a primary highway. It is an unpaved road, parts of which may be impassable at some times of year. I recommend not including any of the Manatee/Coastal Highway.

There is one important paved road in Belize that is not primary highway, but would be a strong candidate for inclusion because it serves a lot of through traffic. This is:

D200      Burrell Boom Road, from the roundabout on the Western Highway near Hattieville to the
           Northern Highway at Mile 13.6, 11.8 miles. This is the most important of the nonprimary
           roads. It provides a route from the Airport to the Western Highway (and points west and
           south) without traveling the long way around through Belize City

I do not recommend including the Old Northern Highway (does not serve through traffic anymore; poor pavement condition) or the Progresso Road to Corazal (does not serve through traffic; not sure of pavement condition).

You commented that you had difficulty finding names for minor roads at intersections that you will be using as waypoints. If you send me the latitude and longitude for any intersection, I can probably give you either the name or number for the side road at that point.

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Re: Belize Roads
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2018, 07:48:07 pm »
Here are the coordinates for locations I could not get a street name...

George Price Hwy
StMat http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=17.277190&lon=-88.634045
8MileCom http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=17.469066&lon=-88.293254

Philip Goldson Hwy
BobEil http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=17.711703&lon=-88.448501
CroTreeAcc http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=17.774935&lon=-88.479915
SanLuis http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.174947&lon=-88.577751
BueVis http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.235934&lon=-88.526124
SanRom http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.296656&lon=-88.509258
SanNar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.310091&lon=-88.511210
YoChen http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.356969&lon=-88.498593
Pat http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.394926&lon=-88.477565
StaEle http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.484197&lon=-88.399819

Hummingbird Hwy
StMar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=17.088139&lon=-88.613985
Mid http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=17.039420&lon=-88.523670
Mile25 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=17.002529&lon=-88.451528
AltVis http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.990012&lon=-88.401232

Southern Hwy
CatLan http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.120179&lon=-88.795018
BigFall http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.256195&lon=-88.885741
SpiFarm http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.362111&lon=-88.797078
MedBank http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.444012&lon=-88.744592
Bla http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.470352&lon=-88.625953
SanJuan http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.564346&lon=-88.514459
SanRosa http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.665921&lon=-88.456094
MayaCen http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.796759&lon=-88.379618
SilkGra http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.884064&lon=-88.340502

Burrell Boom Rd
BurBoom_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=17.559747&lon=-88.404842
BurBoom_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=17.569930&lon=-88.387172


Thanks...
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